CTL: Stone surprised Sveum didn't bench Castro
Wed, 6 Jun 2012|
Steve Stone and the Chicago Tribune Live panel express their surprise that Cubs manager Dale Sveum chose not to bench Starlin Castro Tuesday night after his mental lapse Monday - 6/6
The Cubs. Trudging along in the last they snapped a CIA could AF franchise tying. Road losing streak at eleven last night at the other day starlink Castro. A mental error again we solid Friday night when he stopped on -- I steal attempt that was tagged out we thought involved involved in and that a ground ball the second they flipped a short. He doesn't throw to first he may not of gotten a guy it's irrelevant whether -- water wasn't because he wasn't even looking to make the play there wasn't mentally and I've said that they should take them out of the game after the sixth inning and sent a message said we'll see yeah Friday when we played Minnesota you're gonna sit and watch for a few days. What's your take. Well I think the first six times they warned him David obviously there were very stern and now the seventh time that he does something like that they warn him again and antenna back off that. I think it's become almost the -- way I thought the culture was going to change under dale slam and -- new coaching staff certainly the new front office. But the one thing that you really can't. You can't have on a daily basis the guy who's head is not in the game and he's too young to establish bad patterns they have to be established fairly. We go back to that. Famous moment in Atlanta when Bobby Cox took a first year player first year great center fielder Andruw Jones. Pulled him out of the game in the sixth inning because he didn't hustle out a fly ball. He was sending a message stat that was unacceptable. In Atlanta they didn't play that way yes. And he obviously went on to win a lot of gold gloves and was part of a world championship and you know get over 400 home runs had a terrific career. But Bobby Cox wanted him to know early what was acceptable and what he wouldn't tolerate run gardeners the same way in Minnesota and for years they had a very good baseball team. Four years the Cubs have been very. Oh let's say yeah accepting. Some things that other managers wouldn't deal -- I thought -- swing would be a little bit tougher. And I think the idea of sitting gestured down would send a message to everybody not just Castro. That we have to change things around we haven't won in so many years you can you remember back when they ended in a World Series since the big war. So we have to do things differently and now the culture changes. But the culture is not gonna change unless they change the players. And the players' attitude toward each and every game now I've heard they're taking it one game at a time and they're playing exactly. You know the way they wanna play. Instilling in a lot of young players -- brand new idea about how to play. It's just kind of disappointing when you see it over and over and over and over again. There's no accountability there's no ramifications a stern talking to hasn't worked in the past I don't think it's gonna work now. And you can't take enough money from these guys they make a whole lot the only thing you can do is take away playing time. And that's really the only thing that lot of players understand. If you put him on the bench they're going to get the message it's been done with other players it's been done -- better players it's been done with a great deal of success and it should have been done in this situation. Don't appreciate the knowledge have a good broadcast tonight a lot. OK David daycare and -- you -- down the road we'll see if there is Steve Stone are base that's here at CSN you know I was looking up on the Internet today and here mr. baseball there Charlie Manuel went out and pulled Jimmy Rollins who was an all star. They said I'd like your hustle on a play where mentally into a play. You're out and yank him and benched him that's you've seen what they Andruw Jones you've seen it with guys in Minnesota. I don't understand why people are so accepting fans are going nuts on me if you kid that Celek after he's your best flyer squad to the. Think about starters he's young so the messages are gonna get across and have kids you got it instill it in and an early age. Don't do this and if you do there's ramifications. If you're not going to -- starling just keeps saying hey you know what. One more time just one more time and some of the best and your be grounded for well. You know this is the big leagues and there's no such thing is grounding if you're gonna let him keep going out there and your a -- your stance one day your heart and post game in San Francisco and say hey. No more this the next day I don't know what. Before you guys respond let's hear what dale said yesterday he was very strict. It's never just golf what do you say before the game yesterday. Tonight. -- -- -- well you know let -- last year quade benched him. Our game right that was was that last year I think it was the year before it was the other men on it and yeah. Are you -- is probably more a referendum. About. Just -- thing is I'm not star runner. These deals the first year for an awful long time manager let it physical -- mental day off last race okay incidents prior call. So arm it is it's a tough position there but. Also this is a year where everyone knows the Cubs are not gonna content. What better situation answers to that to deliver a message. This year. You know I agree with the material and censor. -- -- on its not like he's not hustling but if you're especially a middle infielder you really have to be. In two at Oakland at all times what the situation as you gotta know who's gonna cover second on a steal we got to know. Who you know word play how many outs all these things are -- shortstop it's incumbent upon America. As much as anybody else perhaps -- -- -- as a catcher to know what the situation is and down for him repeatedly. To have these mental lapses is it's disturbing -- particularly concerned about -- game changing his tune from day to day -- think you can be emotional. After a game in the moment. You sleep on it. I know that Marcus Spears there's not mean he did the front office Rosenberg wrote better that. Maybe that's true but I think you could also just as easily say a guy takes a day takes and I think about what he said the day before and is just calmer. And see have a different reflection on that day that said there's a 162 games of the baseball season and much like president not contending. I don't see the harm in sending a guy. Maybe you don't listen for the whole series to three games in a row maybe that's a little overkill Troy Merritt I don't understand why I. You sit a guy NFL season that's one and a sixteen a huge. He said he guy even like I am basketball game or how in the sold half the games you played baseball there's so many times you go back out there and tone for things. In baseball missing one game it just is a miniscule fraction I don't know what the big deal would have bin. The -- necessarily what you. Lose kept the one word that you mention I mean we've heard it you just brain -- all of us in the newsroom since December 1 word accountability. And ever since they hired -- in the new. Management group the Cubs way has been the theme throughout. So what is the Cubs way if you're not going to hold people accountable because. When -- that introductory press conference. Accountability must have been -- at least a dozen -- culture changing culture change that's another yes your favorite phrase routes so. Here we are 5560 games into the season. And were questioning whether or not. The message is getting sent to star catcher so I'm not sure what. Another and another thing I mean we've got to consider is let's say the Cubs and one I came under fire. In this would have been sort of a footnote. -- post some numbers and should be -- shouldn't be but we know it would have been.