Welcome to the TV podcast this week on CSN Chicago dot com other podcast we got Cubs starter Ryan Dempster for you. With the north siders in rebuilding mode and death in the final year of his contract how -- dealing with all the distractions. Of being on that trading block and we'll talk to Tribune columnist -- from this date of Chicago's sports which team is closer. We kicking job with the big AD Bob Ryan Dempster on the heels of -- games perfect game of the fifth no hitter this season. The month of June. Baseball does know his role. I think it's a -- See a lot of guys really great arms and I'm just good arms abilities for the ball where they want to put you know Mac team the guys. I always felt like it was always a possibility -- -- thrown no hitters or even a perfect game is a great command plus stuff so it was just. It was exciting to watch you know I'm happy for him as a great guy and that -- a lot of -- in the season like that happens it's great is it as an old pitcher I was refuse. When you watch in that last everything good about Milwaukee. End your perfect game into the sixth. -- -- about how hard it is to go another four innings and throw one of those you know you look at what happened in great catch in the health field. Some good plays in the infield so it's exit just a pitcher ought to make your pitches it takes a really a whole team members fields of the season. You've been here since 2004. Is this been the most consistent you've been on the mound as a -- This season. Yeah I mean you know even if there's amateur public. They're pretty good job of news isn't as possible. You're just I'm able to locate the ball around -- For the most part. And and when you do that change speeds keep the ball middle part of the plate in and having good. Result has this been a challenge with the revolving door behind the plate. And this year. You know mostly guys you're familiar with anyways -- -- spring training and come on -- in the past so. Just kind of -- -- -- and whatever happens happens every -- we are -- people don't do a really good job -- game. Happy whoever's back there. Debacle of the flow I don't -- -- -- it again last night you know you guys are the ultimate team players and and you know you go out there you have a great game. And it doesn't work out. In some capacity has it been hard to keep that. You know. One from you know it's all for the team and and and not think sometimes like Bob you know. It is this is tough because of that contract year and what's going on big picture. Now I think you know is it the easiest way for me do my job is focus on the test and make good pitches. And after they hit the ball is it to me -- I'm doing first base is nothing I can do. So I guess just continued you've got the best I can't. Out of their results in the CNN appear. Ultimately in the end of the day it's whether or not we would lose -- team not whether -- individuals. As long as we wind again there's probably more and more pressure than anything else -- Begins when you do start not winning and as a team it handled. You know being no and no one team's record is eleven and know when you kids and adults but that's what's going -- -- a chance to win today so. Just keep plugging away and just keep going and coming to make the pitches. Dale has talked. Today about the shift and accountability. You know have you seen that as a veteran did that has seen you know one administration to the next to the next. Do you see a shift in an accountability to some of these young ball players out there. Yeah I'm a little bit you know I think sometimes as as the players -- thinking the most important thing for us this focus on our job you know we can't focus on. Things that are higher up announcer. Considered to do -- you know roster or whatever it is it easiest thing for us to do is go out there and prepared be ready to do our job. And then if we can connect these individuals collectively we'll be better for. You ought to work today. No. Of the camp of the cap. As you make your way. -- this. To this office that you -- since 2004 do you think that. You know this may not be here in a week it may not be here in a month. He is for sure. I'm a realist I don't know I know reality what -- These are like so -- just enjoy every -- here and then trying to give my best effort. Hopefully -- can -- the Specter. Come but I understand things he's. Whatever happens happens things happen for a reason and -- and give my best effort. I'm -- seeing what what he went through great friend of years and in just the last month it's. He know more by example of -- how this game is in and how old -- here today gone tomorrow. When I retired -- -- I know -- know anything about how absolutely no for sure you know things can change very. Especially in sports was what he really does. -- Huge part of this game is business. When we're out there on the field it's between the white lines as the game you know but you know there's there's other aspects of it better. That are necessary and it can happen as players you know for me as a player it's just try to focus -- have a good time on here and trying to put that stuff get ahead. And have fun playing baseball. Is it hard to block it out though because you know you. The team that's across the way probably is gonna be looking for some pitching and you hear those rumors and news is it hard to block that stuff out. Nine yeah. Know it's and it's for me it's. From the ballpark and do my job now I can't control anything I can just control what I do -- on that's. But our work in. And do my job because again if other people want you that's a tremendous compliment. But just a game we've made him try to do here is my teammates. And and give my best ever because addicted to do and everybody here. In the dugout -- locker room as well isn't this organization -- -- -- I was focused on actually do my job. If a move was made would you hope to have a long term deal in place that team or would you be open. To the possibility of coming back I mean you like you said you understand the business side of this and you know where this team isn't rebuilding mode so I don't know the likelihood of that happening. Now -- into a lot of things and you know I really haven't given a lot of thought because just. Kind of -- -- the best again. Being really efficient as the Red Sox you know having to -- simple but it's like a lot -- it's hard. Things dedicating golf. -- up next Tribune columnist David Hall for his state of the year. My pleasure while -- the cowboy up podcast. One of the columnists from the Chicago Tribune David David thanks for doing this let's talk about the state if Chicago sports and we talk about this all the time. It's it's amazing how quickly. Things change right now as deep as you analyzed the five teams the Big Five in town whose closest to winning a championship. Well it changes. And every month I think you're at least two months ago could -- this conversation and would have been black Hawks -- Bulls right now. Was because and mini camp because of the things that happen because maybe it's the NFL you look at the NFL. And teams can get to the Super Bowl. Because of -- a lot of different reasons but I think the Bears are positioned. In better position to get to the Super Bowl than the Blackhawks are to get to Stanley Cup finals and then the Bulls are to get the NBA finals the Bulls had the injury situation -- their growth that changed. The complexion the next several years. Armed the Blackhawks won and done two straight seasons I think that BM puts a lot of pressure on Stan Bowman and Joel Quenneville. Next season and Stan Bowman immediately to make something happen to get them back in the conversation. Meanwhile the Bears. The USA -- most charismatic team he said the team closest to a championship because they're higher nondescript guy Phil Emery. Respect around the league unknown to us. They have a head coach is never gonna dazzle anybody here at the podium and yes very solidly they have put together a roster that they just wrote in the Tribune. You know what the Matt Forte situation you've got to hop aboard the dour on the right track with or without him and I think that that gives them. An opportunity that if he gets in the fold. This is a very dangerous team. Let's stay with the Bears team and we talk about Phil Emery. It was an uninspired search that Ted Phillips and and the Bears went through but. Everything that Phil Emery has done since he started on this job. -- they keep it to to a Bears fan out there will say. That makes sense and I don't think that's something that are a lot of Bears fans have said the last decade plus that makes sense. I even talked to somebody within the organization. In the last week he said we've had three meetings about training camp. Any interest in the entire. A ten year of Jerry Angelo we never met once about training camp and in the schedule taking nothing away from -- but. He runs a tight ship the way he's handling the Forte situation. I know what I like -- lot I think the Bears are obviously a better football team with Matt Forte. When I get it from from the Bears perspective this make sense to me franchising him. And playing your cards out that. Way whoever is a very logical man a very very reasonable rational thinker that's not real exciting and I think that the way the he's gone about the job. Kind of -- the way that they went about the search kind of messed nondescript it's not real lot of because. There's not really anything dynamic is that to say anything that's gonna get on you know make headlines it doesn't wanna be part of the the media kind of culture. That's okay because what he's done immediately I think. We won people over you ghetto a wide receiver in this town that has been begging for one for years. And then you're gonna win the benefit of the doubt he did that immediately at the that was Smart also from public relations standpoint but from roster standpoint. And I just think he's made all the right decisions the Matt Forte situation he tell the ground they have been Smart about -- control his rights if they want to through 2013. You know we can talk about -- leverage that Matt Forte is losing but you have to have leverage to lose it and he doesn't have any. Brett and I think I did so McCarty who's -- agent it really lost the window last year last year was the because as you said now you've got two years where you can franchise tag him and you don't need to negotiate with him at all. If they had offered eight dollar north. Of the almost sixteen million he's going to gaps. Are over the next two years I would -- taken it because as we've seen from the bears' perspective all the Brian's and an interesting spot right now going into the final year of his deal. They tend to reward their loans that outplay the contrary I want to. If it plays well in the locker room it really plays well around the league. He didn't want them to do it I have an opportunity I thought that. That was a miscalculation because if you look at -- easy look back now from his perspective. But Matt Forte has never meant less to this offense just because the way the offense is is no reflection on his talent. Or concerns over his knees or anything like that. It's just that this offense is all about the quarterback and all about the new renewed passing game and are you reinvigorated receiving corps. You know his role when Mike Martz slot left to you know how tall. Matt Forte is role diminished just by definition. And you know his stock continues to rise is Jay Cutler's it's amazing how much power. Number six now wields at palace hall. I'm I'm waiting for the Dick -- podcasts because you finish -- -- -- getting out there. He's more visible he's more comfortable he's more likeable he definitely more like that just from must but I think that. He looks like you guys more relaxed is a lot of things happening in his life he looks like he's on the verge of something happening on the field. Very important is career. But there's no doubt that. This season is all about Jay Cutler and I I think that his contract situation. Soon will become a bigger priority -- Bears the Matt Forte but what about Brian Urlacher because what. Face -- he is the heart and soul this defense. I think he has at least three years left in him. He's shown before that he can bounce back from injury. Do you see if Brian performs well say the first 56 weeks of the season that somewhere during the bye. A deal is struck and he's on on the payroll for dale long time. To that you have making sense I can see that him. Wanting that to happen I mean he can talk and he will say things like you look forward free agency he's never experienced -- other guys in the situation would. But he is a wanna leave Chicago Chicago has been very good to him he's been very good to the Bears organization this is something that should end. With the ceremony. His Jersey and frame men and somebody. You know shedding a -- I think that's what the motivation will be that said we talked to a Phil -- he's not gonna make any decision that is ruled by emotion. You know his head rules his heart and I think that's going to be the case can be kind of tricky I agree with you Brian Urlacher got a -- three good years in him. And I think the Bears. We'll make a deal like they did before when Jerry Angelo the GM. To do something that makes a lot of sense financially may be a balloon payment at the end that maybe doesn't count against the cap he may never see. But it makes a lot of sense to get. Something don't look look at Tom Coughlin I mean the guy was on the hot seat up until all. Week thirteen or fourteen last year goes nine in seven wins his second Super Bowl. So you could look at -- in the same type situation. Is is this a make the playoffs or love he's done type a year from your perspective is from my perspective but I don't want over dramatize it but I think that you know it's playoffs or bust. From his. Standpoint in terms of in Chicago that's the way it is in the NFL you've got to look at that way especially in a market like Chicago Coughlin in New York. You know the Bears need to get. Two playoffs they need to you know give back there NBA with this roster. It even puts more pressure on Lovie to get the most out of it because this is a playoff team with a without Matt Forte. And I think that Lovie given the fact you've been here since 2004. It's time and with the new general manager. -- doesn't have to prove anything to Phil Emery but obviously if you don't. If you don't get to the playoffs you're not taken stuff forty taken a step back let's move onto some other teams let's go to the Chicago Bulls your colleague KC Johnson from the Tribune. Sit next year's -- tread water season and I get that. I mean what are we gonna get from Derrick Rose when he comes back in January February or march. And when you take a look at these two teams right now in the NBA finals. You have to wonder even with a healthy Derrick Rose is still missing that second part athletically yeah. So is it time right now. 44 gar Forman and John Paxson to consider moving -- all day and or joke team know what to get younger. So that you know two years down the road when realistically that window opens up again to make a run at a championship -- year. And your considering what you're gonna do -- -- the last couple years. That you get younger now because next year and in law thing has probably reached his ceiling. It's great debate I thought the march askew was something really actually on the website about you know this is the some of the Bulls really could should consider blowing everything up and starting over. I think it depends on the situation that's a boring you know way to look at but I think that when you talk about moving -- I think you're gonna need a defense of presents a -- since your coach's mentality. And no fits that and he's young he's affordable I think that he's probably less. Likely to move -- I would be less likely move in the may be Luol -- Blood thing is the guy that obviously -- Tom Thibodeau loves he plays you know until he drops and he is -- part of your defense of mindset but if you get younger. On the wing. Tom I don't think you wanna trade. Your interior depth which which is what your strength is at the -- besides their gross but if you get younger with Luol Deng to rid of that kind of salary give you some flexibility. I'd have I would definitely take off phone calls -- -- gar Forman. Let's get into the Blackhawks were touched on them earlier Scotty Bowman was instrumental in the Blackhawks ending their drought and winning -- all. Stand Bowman his sign. Inherited a roster that was you know not cap friendly. A lot of talent on there had to basically. Stripped down that championship team announced try to build it back up. Do you think you know John McDonough and and and the praise he's given the -- do you think stand is on the hot seat right now going into this year I think so. Because you cannot have three straight one and done seasons yeah I think they need to go deep into the playoffs. They need to pay attention was going on around the league. And I think that when you look at what happened with -- kings winning at all obviously it says that you need a great goaltender yes Tom but it also says that. When you look at them the hawks' core. Yeah a few pretty good about an eight seed won at all so if you box score you reinforces your your belief in your core players is Corey Crawford. One of those core players that's the -- question because I don't know. If you fewest Qaeda you don't feels confident answer that yes he did a year ago. And when you see the last two cup champions winning with Tim Thomas single. And in this year with with -- the quick. Then that's a message that says you know what even though the Bowman's a sort of famous for you what the goaltender isn't and most importance the defense the front of him. That matters but you need a big time goaltender in playoffs you have to it and you don't need a bonafide superstar you don't need to tie up your money in five. Forwards that that really make you less deep you know. Who -- fourth line. True I also think this puts pressure not only a bone but also Joel Quenneville chair because look what the kings did the coaching change in December of movement they won -- all in June. Now Joel Quenneville. Whatever chemistry issues they had you know they they've got a win they can hack it out of the gate slowly next fall and I think that's. Pressure on him as well this pressure and everybody has 1901 west Madison the biggest coaching move. In the city Chicago in the last year Ozzie in departs. And Kenny Williams goes with Robin Ventura. You know a lot of Sox fans at the time were were taking sides between Ozzie and Kenny with the way this team has performed. In first place sixty games plus into the season. Does that you know lead credence to the fact that rides -- made the right call hero with the right. Or snow much caps yet no victory laps yet but I think the you can say the Kenny Williams and and Jerry did pick the right every that they made the right decision. Yeah it was time for change that's not criticism of Ozzie Guillen so much isn't isn't just the inning knowledge meant that the fact that there without the fatigue in the clubhouse. At the cell in the city. And it was time and Robin mentor represents the polar opposite in sports that's the way it works you get somebody. To replace a guy who is different inning and changes the dynamic changes the air in the room very refreshing place to be right now on the south side and the Sox. Whether it's on the road or on the played very competitively I expect him stay in the summer. Meanwhile on the north side the rebuilding process continues I think. You know the fan base has trust in Theo Epstein and -- Hoyer. Regardless of of what the the wind and -- situation is I think you know that the needle is pointing up that they see that there is a game plan they see that. In other knock in a stray from that game plan my question use one half. I think the Cubs have a quicker chance against the playoffs and really gets renovated Eminem I'm thinking 20152016. For the Cubs being a playoff type of team. -- you know and I don't know where the Wrigley renovation stands right now they have a lot of political. Obstacles in the way some of -- are they they put their themselves but you know you like what the Q what's going on with the Cubs in the minor league level as you pointed out. You know them play in the Tigers this week is very represented of its a good example was good reminder -- Tigers back to back a hundred loss season when Dave Dombrowski took over. That could be the model the Cubs follow five years after that there were in the World Series who knows. Who knows anyway they went anyway and solid this year and so far it's not exactly working out right -- -- tiger reserve. They're they're yeah they're they're definitely going to be. Jason White Sox for awhile and that's going to be great race David thanks for the knowledge is always will look Ford -- work in the Tribune thanks. I think the hi my. We -- we thank you for. We'll see -- next.