Seems like you've come around a little bit that there will be a play off. Of some sort of looks like fourteen you have four -- I can live with. Ford does it mess up the regular season because teams will still feel like they have to win every game. So you won't have situations where two undefeated teams are playing in November and they can just say we got eight teams screw it we're just play for seats. Also will you do the problem -- eight teams is that -- it's unfair to kids who are paid today and ask him to play you have to 151617. Games. It makes it really hard on travel I mean your your fan if there's an eighteen play -- -- the quarterfinal game got to the semi final game that are weaker the puck so. But let's talk about the good the good news it's four teams. They're still haggling over how they're gonna determine it themselves they're certainly be a certain a selection committee. And it's coming to the your point fourteen and it is gonna make college football even more exciting than. Currently -- is that a problem all those problems to -- -- travel and actually means everything at the what there's just go crimson. Well I don't really know about those levels in Medina -- but they have what they think they don't know I mean a couple things about those -- love 32 division three -- thirties they triple -- things about those other levels people -- well and indeed to be goalies are so great and I say who won the division one double AT well yeah I want to -- nobody -- until I -- -- the -- -- -- -- -- -- -- one and also has. Bowl system so that already makes it different from the other levels is a tradition of bowl I don't really have a whole lot about the little like -- say during a -- she's playing the actual games. You don't. Players who are being paid Pena playing -- -- -- -- one yeah I mean it's the same situation for the lord of and it's not like that yeah yeah it is that it's not it is different as those guys are not trying to make the NFL they're not risking life and win every week against the top athletes in the world to try to make it to try to. Have a career when they're done. So so when people talk about let's have an 1816. Or 32. To meet that. You act like you've never heard this before that through did you ask every university presidency is it fair to the players to make a play 1718. Games because he -- you want something on TV on Saturday really it's the same ridiculous Texas president said. We can't have that kind of travel and they found out that the Texas basketball team played in New York three Austin can't segment we're a look at. So -- basketball season as I've always sit and watch that I know let's hear of it works and you -- word no one knows who won the one double layer of the division three I hit -- right. Talk to the people follow that leveled by the way the championship was not a union at Wisconsin Whitewater justification wanted to know -- would you say that in your -- -- nobody at -- really I wasn't cook. The article especially OK it's not okay why that -- gobble another five but armed. June 26 I've designed or played division three that's hard that is one reason Rondo plays for -- -- -- -- -- -- to DC you're yes that is presidential oversight committee so what was determined yesterday in Chicago bond was. You know you have these although the conference. Most commissioners of stood up and they say we are in unison where we prefer a fourteen seeded playoff which is way way better. An -- plus one a plus one would just be you play the bowl games and you somehow try to figure out with a top two teams. And put them together which would be a disaster all -- take last year than you would have had Alabama beat LSU we do you wouldn't of had that bowl game he would read traditional bowl games and you're just trying to find the -- -- really I'm -- it's like it's an extra game right right but -- what is so what about us out and look this is one of the issues that war there Woolsey with a fourteen play out. Last year. You know would've been very tidy because Stanford finished fourth in the rankings or in finished fifth. And Oregon beat Stanford straight up there so anybody thinks without a selection committee. Yet to be determined and that's a huge issue you have former coaches do you make it like it is -- basketball selection committee try to get guys -- -- Everybody's -- I mean everybody came for one tournament or another would tell you what and of course -- -- for you is when it goes to Washington I guess what. How will things to how good things to look at our opposition could -- face when they go to Washington well with this proposal -- what. What are some things that might fall apart I mean some of the presidents I know people don't want admit that some of these people are actually students who go to class and take finals and that's a weird concept and they should just be. Playing games for -- all are always looks after looking to bug me at Auburn -- -- knock -- the south but some of those guys like Atlanta presidents are gonna say well you know let's if we're gonna do this. You know let's try not to stretch they've farther than it is I mean -- be better if they scaled it back so where the championship game was in January 10 -- maybe January 4. So we looking at things with a calendar when to say OK if we're gonna go into this playoff we're gonna all make a lot more money out of it and make the fans very happy. But let's not totally screw these kids and and really just take advantage of -- -- and entertainment. Robert. -- look at your the good hoop that well. I mean I really don't have a dog and expect to get by -- I was thinking earlier today thinking about this topic that I care so much more about college football. Before the BC yes. When the Big Ten had ten teams and he played a nine game conference schedule and you knew at the end of the conference who was the winner because they all played one another. And you had your balls and I seem to care more about them. Now -- you know. All these things what you're doing is just creating more problems. On top of problems because this solves nothing really I mean yeah you got to fourteen. And then when disagreements up and is going to be clamor for eighteen because the 56 and seventeen that the even the fourteen are gonna start screaming. So that'll be eighteen to -- and that deal is up in. Then nobody clamoring for the sixteen any chance -- -- in order doing with this is just changing the narrative you're not really solving. And it -- pro playoff people just have to understand and yeah I'm fine with four but once you get a bigger you become college basketball and how to best play is great for a lot of reasons but a lot of people in college -- calling me and they say the regular season has been totally marginalized. Nobody knows who wins the Big Ten regular season nobody even noted that nobody cares who is the Big Ten post seasons -- it's all about those three weeks and those three weeks are awesome. But you've just completely made -- regular season insignificant and what's collect how's football unlike unit. That the ratings are way out attendance is way up to that these kids period it's never been more popular. They don't want us grew with that they don't wanna make it just a post season so should leave. Think about to altering the championship games of the conference is -- them if you're still do this I mean. You say you were in a conference title games yeah I mean I think it did -- -- you know maybe if you're gonna do this we're gonna really get fumble that and that things. Again everything goes back to. -- how much money Willis fourteen -- -- -- 500 so right now it's a 160. Million the current deal could be 40500. Millions of an extra. 250 -- my big concern with the whole thing. Mean I read that the BCS commissioners Matt Wright and jacks -- -- for it. What does notre Dame's involvement in this whole deal because I get the feeling very -- there's going to be some smarmy way -- Notre Dame's gonna make a -- in the fourth yeah. Fourth the -- got. Got a good -- you guys are living in Lou Holtz error I -- look at Notre Dame. I'm zealots virtual waiting gonna get any breaks and and I mean and eventually yeah I mean look so another MLS. For -- mail -- -- finishes in the top four or made it will be provision for top six. A get a playoff so a lot of people resent the irony in that they have the service side thing when it's not gonna happen until literally 1011 games you don't story though is are still before. Team playoff is suffered from the existing holes so there'd still be rolled ball but the team just general home wouldn't be. So for example the Rose -- a half years it'll be a semi final playoff game. I'll and the other half of those including a ten packed ball game. How does the what's the big budget team that's not in the fourteen play writes that it could be like the third place team in the big time. Well or how focused well in a dream world that -- in the Big Ten gets two out of the running out there that yeah it could be the second. Sure let. And right now the -- overly -- -- Ohio State's -- number one of the country Michigan Greg finished his second they would go to I don't know Nazis played like one Rose -- last twelve years and I saw -- -- they hit houses -- go to work to be bidding to -- this city that like the Super -- is it's going to be like after Chicago will get -- snippet of you know cold weather and all -- and we screw up and not have a dome stadium here retractable -- can get the Big Ten championship games to boost its insane. He's gonna do it very Lucas Oil Stadium. All these places Detroit 'cause you can't get it because people love bear weather what would you think god don't Chicago it speedway. Did your pressure on Jerry Jones is going to be very active in the bidding so he's gonna wanna have it. Did you doubt whether or whether -- Arkansas ever makes it he's gonna wanna have pride in our different.