One of the things that the union needs to be doing is holding meetings with players wherever they happen to be to update on the status of negotiations have discussion answered questions. Makes sure that we understand what's important to the players what their views are how they react in the process of these negotiations and all the rest of that so. We scheduled four of them for this period of time several weeks before the expiration of the apparently. Close in the sense that we know a fair amount about what positions of the parties are. We had one in Barcelona for the European players. A week or so ago and we have two more next week one in -- British Columbia and then one in Toronto. The discussions are ongoing have been since I left him. Toronto. And we'll continue next week and hope this will be able to kind of -- treated. Disparate positions which conscious. At a good time. Representation here Ryan community. A list of the players who were in attendance that's something that tell you don't have it was bad if you got questions I'll answer whatever you got. Things that I can't wasn't here. I think it's fair to say that it was interested. It was focused and it was over the players understand what's on hands and what issues are. They understand how the owners' proposals were effective than they understand how this compares to what happened seven years ago when players. Gave up and understand that this can affect their lives. We can't find a way through this in the immediate future. And some very. Grateful for their help and support obviously but I'm very satisfied they're knowledgeable on him participate as I think you know we had. Upwards of fifty players including some of the most prominent game and it kind of negotiating meetings I expect that number grows and the time. -- anything here. How prepared are -- we'll look. Hockey players either lived through. Or have teammates and friends that live through the last lockout. They've heard about the owner's lockout is in 1994. They watch on television what happened with the football and basketball players in these negotiations we've had continued references to the football and basketball agreements by the owners' representatives. So the last thing that the Predators objectionable lockout is. Surprised the players and they've had at the back of their minds. Some cases it is more forward than that and if it has to be it'll be a real pain and it will be unfortunate. But -- there there there. You. Years ago. Well looked. If there's a mutual will to get this done and we can find me. Common platform around which to construct an agreement then obviously there's plenty of time. In which to do that. But I've got to tell you I am out of the prediction business I hit it out of the prediction business or for some two decades. About how things will go all you can do -- work we're anybody sometimes across the table sometimes and informal conversations. Sometimes internally sometimes you just thank him. Yourself and you hope that one of these days right combination. Factors -- career and you find a way to get it takes two to be able to do that hopefully there will be --