I thought that the Kirk Hinrich they were getting. Was still better defensive player and then he has shown I think he's maybe closer to the defensive player that left Chicago. Then the one that has played the first ten games or so because he's not there defensively he's he's kind of up. You have to -- was never shut down guy. And win you have already some guys on the floor you can't really have. When you need defensive stops you know I don't know how how -- Nate Robinson who's about how they can afford the same time because there's still that you need the offense. But they're both gonna -- job you're running -- you still have their pros and how you make that decision for them because we need office feel easy. Since you have a superstar and we're gonna score -- -- to take over gave me you are the best teams you watch the thunder. They -- the Lakers and Miami has. They have guys -- take over games right now this blog gets you know the the small that is so methodical right now because that's all they can't be the bench is not playing well. You -- -- -- you shouldn't point 9% four. Well and you wondering why you had Boozer Hinrich rip Hamilton on the bench for the fourth quarter most of these fourth quarters. It's really because defensively those are the three you can't really keep up with the men. On the court and so the fourth quarter he needs speeding needs Butler Gibson is Gary Robinson entirely around and it's you don't have a lot of scoring going. They have a lot of options that they guard position defensively so I think they -- has been and I'm Jimmy Butler fell a little bit lately I think he's been nice development. And obviously you'd you'd trust talk a lot more than stroke. Who's down the stretch defensively for Boozer you know give Phoenix its 4814 you have you can ignore that either this team's defense. Sport -- I think -- -- sometimes it's a little bit deceiving because he usually has a big first quarter then -- kind of come down a little millions of credit. I'm in the grind and guys that we're the show talk about older shake up an all star. I had to listen I'm -- -- she has gotten off to get started you looked better as well so far ask the question you asked. Which question -- -- -- both gonna regret we all know I should should there is it too early to say that they actually ridiculous one absolutely ridiculous a car and listen up right here but that's ridiculous yeah. Nice player and he's doing fine in Houston but he's the big difference and no I'm not I'm not I don't -- guy I'm just saying guys are when you look at when you look at what he's been able to do so far this year he has had. Multiple nineteen point games and Taj Gibson really hasn't given anything offensively but I you know I what you said in the beginning -- I think is true which is that. They re not in their bench is definitely worse than last year. They're not a lock down bench that they were defensively last year answer your forced because you really have no offense right now. Take to have Nate Robinson played all these minutes and say you're gonna be sacrificing defense for offense and into me. Right now you have a team bit. They just can't and they can't score and when when -- -- has been leading you in scoring Russia and number different games you have a problem. That is lumped in with Russell and the rest of the Eastern Conference looking over -- right now -- the Pacers Indiana Pacers are off to their disappointing. Start in Indianapolis. In any Rangers hurt they have not clicked like people expected them to click. But a lot of mediocre teams in the -- after the Bulls in minutes.