There Rocky starts for the Bulls without Derrick Rose. That being said though there's 77 their half game out to under the circumstances and would you say it's not a bad spot for the Bulls to be right now. No I mean I think you're right about that it's too early be pressing the panic button. That we've we've got to have some trust and since I mean these last -- is. And those -- been like a honeymoon form but he's proven that he's a good enough coach even with the -- and it -- when -- out that you know he can turn this thing around. Obviously this is the whole movement so they're gonna have to continue to gain chemistry but. I think you're stunned to see roles being taken from this second unit Jimmy Butler is really steps and -- -- energy guy in -- of players. He Taj Gibson as a whole movement I think he's done finally struck a little bit. And then Nate Robinson his play making ability it's going to believe those things are obvious but Marco Belinelli I think you get more comfortable and start to knock down -- like we saw the other night. And Nazr Mohamed obvious he's a veteran once he finds his groove in -- he'll be fine as well. As far as the starting lineup not know there was a bit of amount controversy about minutes and everything but this is basically a new team new law these newcomers. You know roles in rotation in -- minutes are still being figured out in. Eventually they'll get it together -- -- a follow up on the bench when you said because what a crazy week for the bench they go from scoring ten points on Monday get fifty on Wednesday do you see. Some of these guys on the bench or actually I as a whole group getting more minutes in the future is that really going to be more of a game by game basis for them. I think it's going to be a game by game basis but is he has since developed more trust in these guys know it -- the utilized the little bit more as well. Obviously if there is a bad matchup for certain players and he's not gonna throw them out this. But if they can prove that they can. No my into the system and really adapts that you know a new offensive system the defense the scheme. No I think if we use them allowed more. It's also contingent of some of the starters we know that log thing and so Tino and played heavy minutes but -- rip Hamilton when he gets it going. No that's less playing time for a guy like Marco Belinelli same thing with Kirk -- -- -- he's a good defender. If he's not announce asking though Nate Robinson might give the sort of stick so I think it's also contends -- on. Know what's going on with the starters and the the best they have they given where they fit in but as time goes on I think we'll see them on the court. Bulls fans -- -- trying to get over that first round playoff loss to the Sixers last season now they're playing at Philadelphia on Saturday did any guys. Talk about getting some redemption gain some revenge a little more up for this one because of the recent history against them. Will they didn't mention that play at the same time he knows in the back of every player's mind this is the team it's that it's out of the playoffs. The same time with the new Sixers team know Andre without. -- Lou Williams coming off the inside our old friend Elton Brand -- some of the -- and -- -- with Dallas. Andrew Bynum is now playing for them but they have allowed new pieces guys like Jason Richardson. Nick Young Guerrero right Kwame Brown. And the leaders of their team Alan Young guys like jrue holidays have -- from out in Chicago. Guy like Lavoy Allen and second year he's now no more established. So it's a new Sixers team you know we have some of the older guys but. Then a similar spots of the Bulls know they are waiting for as softly to come back -- right now you -- this punch that water what they're doing pretty well you know season. Things and I'm pretty quiet on the Derrick Rose rehab front is there any update there and he knew that you can share about how things are going with him. You know you gonna hit different things you know some people Tennessee's way ahead of schedule some people and say. You know he's right on schedule I heard the other day that he was not spreading -- pretty hard for this fast he is who knows if that's full speed on the thing. But he's just working diligently to come back. -- obviously know the target date. Know that people who at least the reports have indicated -- after the all star break. So we'll see what happens I think some of that hinges on how the team is doing I don't think any policy there come back into a situation. If the Bulls are struggling in. You know he's in the put in the position of trying to help them fight for the playoffs but I think that they're firmly in the playoffs which I believe they can. B notes was march April etc. I think then you kind of a clear the path into the return safely. Other big news day in the NBA had today clearly is what happened last night with Gregg Popovich sending Duncan Parker and Ginobili home from their game against Miami David Stern's and is he's gonna put substantial sanctions down on them. Did anyone in the media ask coach lives about his thoughts about that today. Yeah we you know since he didn't wanna come in two months obviously. No he's a guy and has a lot of respect for top of his -- the same time you don't wanna get on the bad side of the commissioner. You know I I think since feels the same we have -- -- -- -- fields in the -- you do with your team is your business if that's what has been doing for years. People forget this was not a one time occurrence that he's been doing for years you know is well within his rights to continue that practice. Obviously was a marquee game nationally televised against defending champions that didn't sit well with a lot of people. But this is not something new -- and Tony has been doing this for a long time. So I mean the thought is at least on the end of at least the mound opinion it's a little bit hypocritical for the -- to be saying something right now. The win column this has been doing this forever. I race and a -- read his stuff on CSN Chicago dot com thanks for joining us we really appreciate it. There's lots --