How much do you think Armstrong actually admitted to Oprah yesterday. Well you know open has confidentially confidentiality agreement that would make the CA envious so I don't think we're gonna get any detailed. I'd be surprised frankly that goes into great detail on the doping it's really have a pretty. That typically -- and I think more. That people are going to be looking for a day and and I doubt he's gonna be likely that spilled any of those. And expose that typical wanna see how could -- he -- and you know we won't know that for a while -- -- -- -- the face of the it's going to be a bit different for him to do it and remember he's got a lot of bodies littered in his wake. Hey -- it's Fred Mitchell off not only has so Lance Armstrong than disingenuous over that many many years here but although I wonder what his. Our relationship has been with the media when when he's been questioned. About the doping allegations over the years up. I was you indignant. How would you characterize it. Smart and basically I mean that's the question face to face a couple of times to be you know cook a completely honest with you that when he's. He's -- he's a very bright guy. He's obviously true that hit this thing down pretty much -- And he went so aggressively after everybody in court in public statements. You don't even need to lead it wouldn't be intimidated writers on the road. So it's going to be always you know it's it's always -- difficult thing and and you know now it will be interesting to see frankly a Little League scouts. You know the idea is simply -- -- -- more incentive I think a lot of has made peace with what was going on all along chemical and bite. They confesses I mean you know I think people. You decided to open -- or didn't and you know. To find out that he's in addition to be the toughest writer having the best team being able ruthless competitor there's also the best super doesn't really. Change. You know opinion of them but yeah umbrage to quickly -- get out of that would. -- -- spread bigs and my question for you -- swoop when you. When you examine this situation when Lance Armstrong and he considers it. When he was competing and when he was winning seven Tour de France titles he was passing his drug tests how. Problematic is that how troublesome is that for site cleaned. For the Olympics for you -- -- sport when you have a guy who has clearly doing it. And had chemicals or some type of situation going on where he was. Ahead of the testing. Well you know -- the irony is is that the the Olympics but even more so cycling and have the most rigorous drug testing regiment. There is sports. You know I always flip the question and say I probably -- feel with my eyes every week and what are what's the NFL if we're gonna you know to find out. How guys are beaten drug -- to me that's probably the you know that's exhibit eight Armstrong obviously -- a lot of help he was real sophisticated program bloopers. All we've been. Had the -- you know we would have never thought about the as the clear. It had it not been for Trevor and Trevor Graham with a track coaches sending him to the drug that I mean. Athletes in every sport and make and so much money right now you can hire him for a couple of thousand dollars it's that are defined. Formulas for some of the stuff the -- a partisan viewpoint -- -- in the detection thing but by and large. You know what -- -- and told -- is that agents. Tend to get blood work -- -- once they -- with a baseline is and that's where the authorities are going to by the way there are steps with the call. But passports -- they they -- they do is determine what the guys baseline plus doubles are. And they tweak them you know they basically because public should get away with without. Tripping that the -- and a positive test and then they doubt that regiment in the way that keeps these guys can we say to other sports. What's amazing about cycling and these guys get tested out of competition all the time they have to provide. Pretty much the you know 24/7 365. Where they're going to be so. You know Armstrong is that -- -- -- find out that he gets significant help that they get. You know depend on whether or not he decides to cooperate and help much with the authorities. You know in sides to sport and maybe even in law enforcement. They jumped over Roger's era album. What we hear about Armstrong's decision to talk about this is that. Events like the Iron Man triathlon he's not been able to inner. Other. He'll basically amateur races it is he really that addicted to competition that just to be able to get back and compete. In an event is that much of a motivation or is there something else here that's sort of compelling him to be open. Well you know with my best guess in and that I've known this guy that talked to a lot of over the last couple years ago almost all the good off the record. I think he desperately young kids it's still the one thing that that's for certain the other thing isn't it. You know there's a lot of people that would like to feel out there were in public and you know back a couple of flip a local back on I know for sure that the people that strong and he himself would like to get back in front of that because it's. You know battled league a pretty worthy cause but I don't think you've seen in -- conditions that would be surprised frankly depending you know is that we -- -- A visit which goes to see what he brought this would mean this guys. That'll be -- But he's also got larger player that this is our -- -- the last chapter in this guy's book. And but I you're right I think it starts -- obviously with the idea that. He'd vote beating the snot out of everybody around them. That just about everything you can you -- compete at and you know to me but other guys too reflective I think got -- you know some to some extent Tiger Woods is -- -- collective although. You don't the way he responded to public criticism I think to the -- might have been. He's a little softer than those two guys but they have to both live in Jordan's -- agreed that the guys that you know just did -- would all the time but everything. Pete -- along those lines another guy with that strong addictive competitive personality. Oh absolutely absolutely although I don't think either of those guys or Jordan or armed throwers like we could make a through the club themselves as Pete has -- In these last couple years to be honest with you. Hey Jim why it's could be facing strong legal action because of his admission right perjury or obstruction of justice what what do what do you think's going to be the fallout. Legally free Lance Armstrong. That's the tough question and I think you guys have really -- -- a case by case my guess is it. Some of the B yes so that time in England where the libel laws are pretty strict and -- 1500000. Dollar judgment I guess he can get out of that one pretty cheaply. The whistle blower suit which is followed with all the fault claim that. That he defrauded the postal service of money. Because he used they could be denied using performance enhancing drugs. Is a different animal because. The funny thing about if you did he actually everybody for the Postal Service for the that. Trouble proving damages they will be able able. But I have a problem proving that he violated the contract. So I think that get settled that could prove expensive quite frankly I'm different in the five to fifteen million dollar range because they would just could also be tripled. He won an arbitration astute. And arbitration panel hearing against the company that probably to a toward the front bonus and try to get out of paying its its final judgment was that would have and half million. The funny thing is that agreement besides that you can't ever go reckon we -- and so. Out of the with a legal matters -- that's how it'll work out will dictate how it goes forward. So long story short on -- guess he's got twenty to 25 million dollars in my ability for the put value would hundred million realistically I would guess it's. Have that because they always had inflate the numbers -- He's got a big hit going -- he's gonna try to negotiate everything down to whatever we can but you can bet that they've looked at all this stuff I don't know ledger. You know pluses and minuses when they sit down as physically as they have contests.