SI's Pete Thamel on his Manti Te'o story
Sports Illustrated's Pete Thamel joined CTL to discuss his interview with Manti Te'o in October and to give his thoughts on the ongoing saga - 1/17
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And Pete when you first heard this news yesterday. Did you go when I thought there were some weird things as I was doing the interview or took your breath the way you were stunned. I wasn't Stalin but I was I was surprised I mean there or some little things that they didn't -- -- you know there's there's there's no question about that. -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- I searched for some sort of location -- funeral notice everything and they didn't exist but. That you know that was after five days of hearing from preached on the Notre Dame campus Brian Kelly multiple teammates talk to two hours from Brian KO. That are at our pass from and -- shots and there was just nothing. And -- can get per week the first day or stop on campus so there's nothing in. They won't make me crossed the rubicon to -- for a dozen years I mean it's easy to make that week now that that it happened but at the time. That's a pretty quickly. PX Hamilton. You know higher in the same boat as guys who are around. This guy for years you interviewed at times and now SI. I am ratcheting up my cynicism now and sort of dropping all my preconceptions about him. And not really make any conclusions about who -- -- tale was one where the other where you out with that. -- it's it's a good question. It's a good question number and you know I listened shoe I'd never transcribed interview it meant in the entirety of red pretty short turnaround time from my talked to a Mets on the afternoon so. I talk -- more into the next orient you know arm -- quite as real as we all -- business and stop and you know. The amount of emotion you spoke let him out of now -- intelligent thing -- dusty oceans and people apology for maybe characterizing -- relationship to be more than at worst I would think so. But I just I'm more Goodman are on the on the camp I just -- some more -- -- -- You know if this is this guy was acting out this all thing you know he makes Jack Nicholson a collection bank community here and -- -- Seekers there's just there's just touched it it was just too much. And you would almost a at a full time job to term broader strokes. It -- it's Brad -- my question is are you surprised at all the Jets were -- very athletic record Notre Dame. Would jump behind me and Titus is quickly and as strongly as he did instead of may be. Working to distance the school a little bit from what is just did ridiculous. Story. Sure well I think -- were fortunate very bright guy. And I think Hannam. Putting the weight of his own you know they don't career credibility. I think hale certainly says something I mean if it's easy he's a lawyer keeps you know worked a lot higher profile lately and it's like he's putting his credibility. I'm hale I would think any sat down in in -- them on this topic. I I would think he would feel pretty confident. In and out things -- it was caught that there's not on a reason -- Notre -- -- it's like they're in a start -- quarterback is going to be he's going to be around awhile and it's. I I just think that the longer KO. Two weeks to -- college. The more questions are going to be like what you want to just get her out there if if he didn't speak at Duke. Let -- get out there already you know the longer you wait I think the border like Bryant and skepticism and Accenture and -- -- -- Peter telemarketers from pro football weekly actually. It's been a little bit of time with tail and his family and I remember reading your piece at the time and and thinking how spot on that seemed to me. Now with this story coming out as you look back during the the interview process and preparation the peace. Did you talk to any of his teammates and coaches anybody at Notre Dame. Who in any way gave you a sense that maybe there was a part of the story that that that that you weren't getting yeah. Well it is yeah I mean like -- that story in the first three character out what would make -- -- -- arrested there was brought in as a football player who he is -- Other go to Notre Dame for a long time a modest -- Mary Ryan Hamilton has but certainly. I found people who like new on campus there who you know people have a pulse and said look -- guys go to their insanity is to -- certainly write a nice story about him but. But you get what you want people who you know and try to and around to totally lost the record. But whatever it is true he's a great -- and I mean I went to you know from an academic side of campus at certain professors. I mean. I felt like I get a tree I talk to people -- -- -- coached at athletics secretariat where like an. Again it just kind of completes only EE a lot of people -- Like I gotta ask you -- if he had won the Heisman Trophy if he was sitting today with the Heisman Trophy on his mantle. Would this be a bigger scandal it would still be the same level that it's at and if we had where do you think the whole thing would go from here. You know I think it's pretty darn big I'm sitting here and an -- -- it is you know an -- any there -- came against CNN before -- -- -- hostages so I don't know how much -- -- and that's certainly -- Eyes and marks per literature level that. And we appreciate taken time or less -- for you as I read your article today which is not outstanding reading. He says you there we kind of saw each other we met and then we started dating on October 15 if you saw him today would you say. I feel violated feel like you lied to me or do you think it was just that 21 year old kid who had a son like relationship he was embarrassed about you understand. You know he eat he certainly kept gray with and you know I -- -- at some point down the road very likely distant as perhaps crops in this business and and I will talk to him about them what his mindset was when we sat there that they in talks are for very long time out. I don't think he outright lied about that I just think -- you know he kept it may never directly set that person. And I do think the one time he released camera -- -- answer was an aunt telling Matt and I I cents an embarrassment from him and again -- -- in -- it. Who's a ten days solutions girlfriend grandmothers like. I didn't I actually you might have been violating privacy to really -- now. And Q you don't ask him how I met when he was clearly embarrassed by it I didn't think it was hugely important are you are at the time you know considering that the to prison monitoring. He Pete Hamilton -- last -- for me first off the checks in the mail for that comment before I don't worry about it secondly. Ice I a little bit of a disagreement and I think. There's a ton at stake here for Notre Dame and this is a school that. Profited literally and figuratively off. This season man -- had which. Is not too long go yes he's gone in there and could distance itself but I mean when you're pretty T shirts that have lays. On them and selling them and stores. Not so long ago you know those are meant for forever and ever goals or Tyler Wright hurt. It's not -- to question -- and just your thoughts on. What really is at stake here I think Jack -- had no choice but to come out and protect this entity that he called the perfect Notre Dame football player that. Basically came to represent the entire program -- -- four. Yeah you know it in -- that that's a fair point but you just see you're not -- it in at this point in the short track state of an unprecedented situation. I don't think you to put your money are not in our course and critical factor. You know that would just be. Institutionally. Coming out protecting him if they had any inkling. That he was and all this would be completely for art.