SportsTalk Live: What should we believe when it comes to Rose?
Rose said before the all star break he still wasn't able to dot. Now we have visual proof that he -- so what should we really. What we see him doing what we hear bottom when he has camp and even Retief says he still was a ways to -- as he looked good last night. You can't tell me that was that calculated move on and go out there dog after telling everyone I can't even -- look how much -- your intention you are describing to a random act caught on camera. This is how desperate the town is for the return of the MVP you know thinking -- -- that now I don't think he planned that first -- you look at the quality of that you know not a good dung that's a really bad that I don't that is an awkward run up. That is a careful leave. You put it behind net for second over the Tampa Bay lands on the -- we're lacking. He lands and healthy leg is being very. Very careful what you love to have that done just once and you'll notice a lot of terrible -- I did on a six foot rim and my respect on both. Put your your pitcher right it's like why are we why are we but breaking this thing down I mean I thought when he said when he told USA today. That he -- know who's gonna come back. I -- we're gonna leave him alone I thought that was it -- -- to see what happens to -- out fires -- it's a little -- on the issue Reggie Rose thing and now it's even bigger than a wise. I mean but back then he told all the -- heat in the both at all to beat people. He should please leave him alone and when he's ready to talk. He'll track there all of a sudden he's with USA today so the guys who all respected the Bulls and said we'll do it your way. They all got screwed. Yes and -- so that you shows never paid. Never listened to your boss never listen neighbor tells you what to do you gotta break the rules. Although as you get screwed by USA today right Joseph lynch story right but you know what that was all talk it's every bit of talk what we really want in this city. Is to see Derrick Rose play again and he was I don't want. I don't wanna see him play in the -- why -- all why. What's reported to what's the point to it it did not going to be ready to play you play. I -- I don't think one I don't think he's ready to play and I I -- I've seen him at the end of practice doing things I don't think he's close to being he's clearly not ready to play now but you seem to be one of these guys Rick who has decided they have no shot regardless so yeah. -- -- -- I think you don't it's absurd and I think that's absurd well -- because they do you get of course the gelding through those that don't want a champion did it no shot you don't not now pesos so we went other people have opinions. That may be the team. If Derrick were to come back if they have a month and a half to get to get their act together and get cohesive again and people start playing with some confidence and they start to roll a little bit. If -- -- was around -- and Yahoo! or Steve Kasper on NBA dot com would say absolutely did have a shot the best shot to get to the Eastern Conference finals. You don't know what's going to happen where it's not only -- the Cubs in -- deciding to suck as you're not close why bother them but you're actually the Bulls -- -- incredibly close and deciding not to Boller is a crime against the very nature of professionalism may -- but I don't think they're that close I don't think they're that close and I don't think there I don't think he's close I really don't I don't think he's close -- you but you but if he decides he's close fitting clothes in a month. Not playing because giving you don't have a shot is a losers mentality while you know. I have my thing is I'm more concerned about his knee right now in getting that thing completely right in the idea of him. Blowing it out again in in April that they know I just don't sugar -- If he feels he's ready to play of the doctors say is ready to play. Then you should play even if there's a couple of minutes whatever it is you know I'll go back to 1986. When Michael Jordan is coming back from his broken foot and I remember being there and he was like -- a horse that they're trying to hold back we've been playing in you are either not playing but you know Reinsdorf. To his credit I think you're Jerry Krause showing kind of his. Bad matters which bothered Jordan forever should know we're limiting the amount of minutes you can play when you come back. And it bothered Jordan so much but he wanted to play they're worried about him his career that was a series signal you those are small bonus for -- broken when you take off like he -- There's -- frustration for the -- The Brewers. Who came back met gamble Jack Campbell ten months after the same thing is Rose first and a squad game I've got to spring training this year he blowers say already getting so it's just. He wants to let me the secret Peterson thing is a miracle and I think that everybody sees what he did at Toronto when that's an unfair -- what do I because he is a genetic freak OK if you read about that's my portfolio but if you read about his surgery the doctors like after they sewed him up they said. He is further ahead than most patients we've seen a month after surgery that's fine doesn't count that -- that's OK that's breakdown say put him aside he doesn't -- I wouldn't call is not gonna work -- everyone agrees doctor calls highly respect -- -- -- -- -- let him do the surgery. He says. Your knee is ready to go out I'm done with you -- cleared its up to Yunel don't lineup play him. If the put this because the doctor says. He's ready but it doesn't mean that he's ready doesn't mean he's he's ready doesn't mean he's mentally ready let's assume he's ready in a month though reckon he's ready in a month and he's decided that mentally he's as ready as he's gonna get. You would so rather you not know because you don't have -- don't I don't know I'm saying that if if he's a 100% are you are close to it and you limit his minutes whom I don't think -- is anything wrong with it. However that's second pitch it to the end that's second get your win in the inept in the eastern 'cause I think Derrick gets Max 110%. You have no shot to get -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- on the nobody should bother to play well I think you should probably -- -- but he should play I think the way you guys are talking about to -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- going into next -- -- he's -- -- they tell -- a. I'm the voice of reason here this -- comes back he feels like it he says he wants to be a 110% well. Let's do the math nobody can be a 110% -- -- -- that that truly is absurd. You can only be a 100% I mean the release of the math I learned in junior high is correct. So it's -- what if the doctor says his knee is ready to go. He's not acting like he's not running like hit the dog was kind of was very lame. Maybe it is all a little bit -- a huge part of playing without like to see him come back -- it was thirty sec I. Again I I find myself militantly fighting against -- Reggie Rose mentality of if if I'm not on the heat and I'm injured I might as well not play I think that's absurd call like let's get back to I think we're getting all being played here by somebody I don't know who it is I don't know fits his agent if it's a -- is if it's his brother or where. I have no clue exactly what's going on here does anybody that the sitting here -- I think we got a clue last week we got a sad clue last week didn't we did just wants him back the return. I mean even marketing that all year they don't want him to wait no see I don't think -- feelings and the way he wants to play more than any I don't know Rick I guess I believe that I believe he's a lot of soul right now it's you have something taken away from him. He's had his entire life -- -- you I think he wants I wanna believe that and I always have believed that I've always held Derrick led to a very. Hi im gonna put improbably on to a higher pedestal character wise but. I don't know if he's lockstep with Reggie Rose I still don't know the answer to those that from last week and his statement did nothing to distance himself from those comments I think we have another issue here nice and cold there the whole Rose family who runs Derrick Rose and that's a very tough thing. He's got older Brothers who have kind of guided him every step -- and maybe -- little -- but that's it in a lot of ways that's been great for him absolutely get from or why it's complicated because I'm a very I'll I'll. Toughest environment absolutely sometimes you have to step out Beers oh man. Is it gonna have told Reggie quit talking and I can talk myself. Told -- still everybody else what I can do better than -- thing in the whole world is play basketball I have moment happens I think he played. I don't think they have a chance to go to Eastern Conference finals really but I do think he plays they can't score they can beat the Pacers with them know they can beat anybody not named the heap with him and then you never know what might have I not on the Nate Robinson bandwagon guy can bouncing bouncing very yeah I just don't -- -- -- -- score enough.
David Kaplan and Monday's SportsTalk Live panel discuss Derrick Rose's dunk Sunday and whether or not the Bulls superstar is going to come back - 2/25